Should i inform the alik

Keep me logged in on this device Forgot your username or password? Don't have an account? Sign up for free! What do you need help on? Cancel X. Topic Archived Page 1 2 3 4 5 of 5 Next Last. Sign Up for free or Log In if you already have an account to be able to post messages, change how messages are displayed, and view media in posts. User Info: Schesparn. Who's telling the truth? Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery? Schesparn posted I'll spoil it below if you're unfamiliar.

The Alik'r Redguard warriors are looking for a Redguard woman who lives in Whiterun. You can find her. Her name is Saadia, and she works at the Bannered Mare inn. And she claims that the Alik'r are assassins in the employ of the Thalmor, sent to hunt her down for speaking out against the Dominion.

She charges you to kill their leader, Kematu, so she'll be safe. When you track down Kematu, however, he claims that Saadia sold out their city to the Thalmor, and the Alik'r are looking for her to capture her and transport her back to Hammerfell, where she'll face trial for her actions.

With your help, he intends to lure her into a trap. Who do you believe? The man you can free from jail seems strangely honourable, saying he has shamed his companions and wants to begin anew. If Kematu really was an assassin, why paralyse her at the end of the quest - why not just stab her and be done with it? He also mentions justice, and taking her into custody, and implies that Saadia will face a trial back in Hammerfell rather than swift execution.

All this points to him and his warriors being enforcers rather than assassins. Kematu's opening line - "We can avoid any more bloodshed. This would make the dominion hiring them most strange. It is then important to consider this: Is hiring Redgaurd assassins the style of the Dominion?

They have a certain level of free reign within the Empire. Why would they need to hire human assassins to kill someone? They have the Justiciars doing that for the Thalmor. Saadia specifically wants you go and kill Kematu. Why does she want that?

The Alik'r are not allowed in the city, so for now she is perfectly safe. For these reasons I almost always end up siding with Kematu. Lore Friendly Lore Friendly 7, 33 33 gold badges 79 79 silver badges bronze badges. I side with Kematu, because I probably can't take on 20 assassins with curved swords.

I tend to believe Kematu as well, mostly for the reasons you outlined. The primary thing that reinforced my belief was that he paralyzed her and took her back, rather than simply killing her on sight.

Pulling a knife is what anyone would do. He might just be hired and loyal to who hired him. They're already not liked in Whiterun. You catch more flies with honey. Not saying you're wrong, only that there's a secondary explanation for everything, even if only so as to get you convinced to take their side.

Flater re. An additional point in favour of Kematu is that if you kill Saadia at the exchange, he laments the wasted effort, so clearly he wasn't just planning on murdering her once they're out of your sight. Meanwhile Saadia's burial urn, which appears in Whiterun afterwards, could have been sent back for whatever reason e.

Show 2 more comments. Slade Slade 1 1 silver badge 2 2 bronze badges. Punishment for treason is death, so it proves nothing. Why not in Hammerfell? Arkku Why, after an execution in Hammerfell, would they send her ashes back to Skyrim?

Nothingatall "To let the player in Skyrim know it has happened. Show 1 more comment. My assumptions: Kematu is an Alik'r warrior. Having those assumptions out of the way here are some history facts from "The Great War": Skyrim begins at 4E In 4E 27 years prior to Skyrim General Decianus was preparing to drive the Aldmeri back from Skaven when he was ordered to march for Cyrodiil.

In 4E 26 years prior to Skyrim The Emperor encouraged [The Aldmeri Dominion] in their belief that he was preparing to surrender; meanwhile, he gathered his forces to retake the Imperial City.

In 4E at the end of the war In the end, the main Aldmeri army in Cyrodiil was completely destroyed. In 4E the White-Gold Concordat is signed. My Conclusions - Feel free to make your own based on the given facts I doubt that 21 year is enough to clear up all the bad blood between the altmer and the redguards especially with the redguards being involved in gibbeting one of their more famous generals.

Ceiling Gecko Ceiling Gecko 3 3 silver badges 8 8 bronze badges. If the Alik'r were mean-intended assassins as Saadia claims they would just kill these Redguard women they are harassing, not spare them once they recognize it's not her. But the most logical reason why the Alik'r must be correct is that Hammerfell is independent and opposes the Dominion, so you don't get hunted just because you "publicly speak out against the Dominion".

But here is my take on it for judging the character Saadia actually puts the weapon away when you ask her to The Alik'r pretty much are going to kill you unless you give them Saadia. The Alik'r are also ousted from entering Whiterun.. James James Do the Alik'r actually go after you if you take too long to lure Saadia to the stables? Renan In my experience no. They are hardly savage bandits. James If your counter to my first argument is that the same logic has never applied in the in-game AI, then you can't suggest that killing a large portion of a group convinced them to parlay, as that never happens with in-game AI.

I don't understand how your armor has anything to do with the Nords' inherent racism made them inclined to toss the Alik'r out of town. TrueCelt TrueCelt 69 1 1 silver badge 1 1 bronze badge. Mikey Mike Mikey Mike 51 1 1 silver badge 1 1 bronze badge. I never saw Saadia's urn in Whiterun.

If you're opposed to the Dominion, you did the right thing by handing Saadia over to them. See my comment to an above answer. Drizzt Drizzt 31 1 1 bronze badge. It's not unusual for kings to legitimize political persecution with legal shenanigans. She could have a trial under a partial judge. As others have stated in comments: If she was executed as a traitor, her noble?

Jamie Hutber Jamie Hutber 1 1 gold badge 8 8 silver badges 21 21 bronze badges. I've never seen Saadia's urn in the hall of the dead, after delivering her to Kematu. Screenshot of the Week.

Submit your photo Hall of fame. Featured on Meta. However personally I'm inclined to actually believe Kematu since Hammerfell and the Redguard are no friends of the Thalmor having refused to surrender to them and then push them out of the province. Originally posted by Fear :. Originally posted by Melvin, the Lord of Darkness :. Melvin Mercenaries and their questionable loyaly aside it doesn't make much sense for the Thalmor to hire a group of guys from a hostile province to track down a single woman that spoke ill of them.

I pick the Akiir side as I think Saadia is a criminal to her race who is trying to escape justice. I like how the quest is grey so your not sure if your doing the right thing. Saadia is a traitor and should suffer the worst fate. From reading the lore, Hammerfell resisted the Thalmore and the Empire distanced themselves from Hammerfell. That's what prompts me to believe that Saadia is in fact lying.

If Mercs from Hammerfell are rolling up into Skyrim, you know it's serious. Alik'r, I don't care much for their gear, and Saadia always comes off as more than a little suss, and after really thinking about it, I still don't regret choosing the Alik'r side.

Last edited by Dick Whiskey ; 8 Mar, pm. Charlemagne View Profile View Posts. If you prefer the good guy approach, side with the Alik'r. Although the story doesn't seem to give you a clear choice, it is easy to deduce. When you speak to Saadia, her story has many inconsistencies. Also, although the Alik'r accost Redguard women on the roads, they back off when they notice that the woman is not their target.

And, at the end of the mission if you sided with them their conversation continues to indicate sincerity. Last edited by Charlemagne ; 8 Mar, pm.